On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 5:01 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 8:18 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 4:34 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 4:21 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:59, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dynamics is the study of matter in motion. There are no clocks in
>>>> arithmetic.
>>>>
>>>> Of course there is clock. The successor function implements it out of
>>>> time and space.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The fact that you can use one ordered sequence to index another ordered
>>> sequence does not constitute a clock.
>>>
>>> Nothing exists out of time and space, not even time and space themselves.
>>>
>>>
>> Accordingly, you must reject:
>>
>>    - Membranes
>>    - String theory landscape
>>    - Eternal inflation
>>    - The inside of black holes (yet another observer-dependent
>>    phenomenon)
>>    - Other universes with different physics (it's amazing that our
>>    universe allows for life, assuming it's the only universe that exists)
>>
>> All of these ideas have at least some motivation/support. Why reject them
>> out of hand?
>>
>
> This is a very mixed list! Some of these have no evidential support, some
> are mere speculation, and other universes with different physics is a long
> stretch, not at all in accordance with present knowledge.  I do not reject
> all these possibilities, but we do need more data on some of them. None of
> them exist outside of space-time, however.
>

 What do you think about the apparent fine-tuning of the universe? e.g.
https://www.amazon.com/Just-Six-Numbers-Forces-Universe-ebook/dp/B00CW0H6JY

Isn't this a very strong statistical argument that other universes with
different physical laws must exist?

Jason

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