On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 8:18 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 4:34 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 4:21 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:59, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dynamics is the study of matter in motion. There are no clocks in
>>> arithmetic.
>>>
>>> Of course there is clock. The successor function implements it out of
>>> time and space.
>>>
>>
>> The fact that you can use one ordered sequence to index another ordered
>> sequence does not constitute a clock.
>>
>> Nothing exists out of time and space, not even time and space themselves.
>>
>>
> Accordingly, you must reject:
>
>    - Membranes
>    - String theory landscape
>    - Eternal inflation
>    - The inside of black holes (yet another observer-dependent phenomenon)
>    - Other universes with different physics (it's amazing that our
>    universe allows for life, assuming it's the only universe that exists)
>
> All of these ideas have at least some motivation/support. Why reject them
> out of hand?
>

This is a very mixed list! Some of these have no evidential support, some
are mere speculation, and other universes with different physics is a long
stretch, not at all in accordance with present knowledge.  I do not reject
all these possibilities, but we do need more data on some of them. None of
them exist outside of space-time, however.

Bruce


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