On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 5:14 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why has the inflation not been seen at LHC?
>>>
>>
>> >> The LHC just went offline, when it comes back online after 2 years of
>> upgrades it should reach energies close to 15 TeV which corresponds to a
>> temperature of 10^17 Kelvin, and that is the temperature the entire
>> universe was in when it was about 10^-17 seconds old. But inflation was
>> over by the time the universe was 10^-35 seconds old. To inflation the
>> universe was already ancient when it was 10^-17 seconds old.
>>
>
> *> I meant to write that the "inflaton", the particle associated with the
> inflation field, would have been seen at LHC since it must couple strongly
> to normal matter, *
>

If the creation of the inflaton required conditions that existed when the
universe was 10^-44 seconds old and inflation had decayed away when it was
10^-35 seconds old then the particle associated with the inflation field
would have decayed away too and we wouldn't expect to see it today even at
places where we can reproduce conditions the universe was in when it was
10^-17 seconds old. If it still existed it would still be strongly
connected to regular matter but we could not detect it but the universe
could and would still be expanding at an exponential rate and galaxies
stars and planets would not exist, we couldn't detect it because we
wouldn't exist either.

> *> Getting density fluctuations from quantum mechanics would violate
> energy conservation.*
>

If there were no density fluctuations in a gas you could know both the
position and velocity of every particle in it and that would most certainly
violate the laws of quantum mechanics.  And we've had experimental
confirmation for nearly a century that at the cosmological scale energy is
not conserved. The expansion of the universe causes all photons to be
redshifted and lose energy, a clear violation of energy conservation. And
there are theoretical reasons for thinking so too. Noether's theorem says
for every symmetry in physics there is a corresponding conservation law, so
if the laws of physics don't change with time then energy is conserved. But
General Relativity says the space a particle is moving through* can* change
with time so energy is *not* conserved. If spacetime is curved the energy
associated with a point in it doesn't even have a unique definition.

John K Clark

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