On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 7:28 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> If the creation of the inflaton required conditions that existed when >>>> the universe was 10^-44 seconds old and inflation had decayed away when it >>>> was 10^-35 seconds old then the particle associated with the inflation >>>> field would have decayed away too and we wouldn't expect to see it today >>>> even at places where we can reproduce conditions the universe was in when >>>> it was 10^-17 seconds old. If it still existed it would still be strongly >>>> connected to regular matter but we could not detect it but the universe >>>> could and would still be expanding at an exponential rate and galaxies >>>> stars and planets would not exist, we couldn't detect it because we >>>> wouldn't exist either. >>>> >>> >>> *>>> Very good reasons for saying that no such field or particle exists, >>> or have ever existed.* >>> >> >> >>Or has ever existed? How do you figure that? >> > > *> If they had ever existed, they would couple strongly to ordinary > matter, and we would see such inflatons now.* > Helium-5 was certainly created in the Big Bang but we don't see any of it in nature today because it has a half life of 7.6*10^-22 seconds. And if inflatons were created in the Big Bang we wouldn't expect to see them in nature today because they had a half life of about 10^-35 seconds. > > *There are no such things as such quantum fluctuations: * > Quantum Fluctuation <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_fluctuation> > >> We are talking about the most non-local thing we can observe, the Cosmic >> Microwave Background Radiation.Before inflation all parts of the CMB >> were locally connected and reached thermal equilibrium, but even so due to >> quantum variation you could have found slight differences in temperature if >> you had a sensitive enough thermometer and looked at a small enough volume. >> > > > *Collections of particles in thermal equilibrium still show random > fluctuations on the smallest scales -- Boltzmann distribution and all that.* > It's a bit silly to ignore quantum mechanics and try to use classical thermodynamics at a time before inflation when things must have been close to the Planck Temperature of 10^32 degrees Kelvin. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
