> On 3 Mar 2019, at 20:43, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/3/2019 4:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Here's an example David Wallace presents (as an "outlandish" possibility): 
>> Suppose in pi (which is computable, so has a program (a spigot one, in fact) 
>> that produces its digits. Suppose somewhere in that stream of digits is the 
>> Standard Model Equation
>> 
>>     (say written in LaTeX/Math but rendered here)
>>      
>> https://www.sciencealert.com/images/Screen_Shot_2016-08-03_at_3.20.12_pm.png 
>> <https://www.sciencealert.com/images/Screen_Shot_2016-08-03_at_3.20.12_pm.png>
>> 
>> So what could this mean? (He sort of leaves it hanging.)
>> 
> 
> Nothing.  Given a suitable mapping the SM Lagrangian can be found in any 
> sequence of symbols.  It's just a special case of the rock that computes 
> everything.

Even if rock would exist in some primitive sense, which I doubt, they do not 
compute anything, except in a trivial sense the quantum state of the rock. A 
rock is not even a definable digital object. If someone want to convince me 
that a rock can compute everything, I will ask them to write a complier of the 
combinators, say, in the rock. I will ask an algorithm generating the phi_i 
associated to the rock.

Bruno



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