On 5/2/2019 4:55 PM, cloudver...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 5:37:26 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 5/2/2019 11:39 AM, cloud...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote:Apparently *matter* is not "reducible" to just the physics a couple of particles.Then you're not a materialist. You think there is matter plus something else, that everyone calls "mind", but you're going to call it "matter" and add it to everyone else's list of matter so you can still call yourself a materialist. BrentBut everything reducing to the physics of particles is thought of as *physicalism* (not materialism):*Physicalism and materialism*Reductive physicalism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductive_physicalism>...is normally assumed to be incompatible with panpsychism. Materialism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism>, if held to be distinct from physicalism, is compatible with panpsychism insofar as mental properties
What mental properties? intention? reflection? remembering? That's what I mean by saying attributing "experience" to matter is an unprincipled half-measure.
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