On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 5:37:26 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/2/2019 11:39 AM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > > Apparently *matter* is not "reducible" to just the physics a couple of > particles. > > > Then you're not a materialist. You think there is matter plus something > else, that everyone calls "mind", but you're going to call it "matter" and > add it to everyone else's list of matter so you can still call yourself a > materialist. > > Brent > > >
But everything reducing to the physics of particles is thought of as *physicalism* (not materialism): *Physicalism and materialism* Reductive physicalism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductive_physicalism>...is normally assumed to be incompatible with panpsychism. Materialism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism>, if held to be distinct from physicalism, is compatible with panpsychism insofar as mental properties are attributed to physical matter, which is the only basic substance. [Wikipedia] This is "hard-nosed materialism", or "real materialism" (Galen Strawson). *I am not a physicalist. I am a (real) materialist.* The mind+matter thing is perhaps the worst idea ever invented. @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

