On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 5:37:26 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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> On 5/2/2019 11:39 AM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:
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> Apparently *matter* is not "reducible" to just the physics a couple of 
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> Then you're not a materialist.  You think there is matter plus something 
> else, that everyone calls "mind", but you're going to call it "matter" and 
> add it to everyone else's list of matter so you can still call yourself a 
> materialist.
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> Brent
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But everything reducing to the physics of particles is thought of as 
*physicalism* (not materialism):
*Physicalism and materialism*  

Reductive physicalism 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductive_physicalism>...is 
normally assumed to be incompatible with panpsychism. Materialism 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism>, if held to be distinct from 
physicalism, is compatible with panpsychism insofar as mental properties 
are attributed to physical matter, which is the only basic substance.

[Wikipedia]

This is "hard-nosed materialism", or "real materialism" (Galen Strawson).

*I am not a physicalist. I am a (real) materialist.*


The mind+matter thing is perhaps the worst idea ever invented.


@philipthrift 
 

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