On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 8:03:52 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/2/2019 4:55 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 5:37:26 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/2/2019 11:39 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> >> Apparently *matter* is not "reducible" to just the physics a couple of >> particles. >> >> >> Then you're not a materialist. You think there is matter plus something >> else, that everyone calls "mind", but you're going to call it "matter" and >> add it to everyone else's list of matter so you can still call yourself a >> materialist. >> >> Brent >> >> >> > > But everything reducing to the physics of particles is thought of as > *physicalism* (not materialism): > *Physicalism and materialism* > > Reductive physicalism > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductive_physicalism>...is normally > assumed to be incompatible with panpsychism. Materialism > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism>, if held to be distinct from > physicalism, is compatible with panpsychism insofar as mental properties > > > What mental properties? intention? reflection? remembering? That's what > I mean by saying attributing "experience" to matter is an unprincipled > half-measure. > > Brent >
Brains are matter, just as livers, legs, trees, tables, rocks, comets, planets, stars, cockroaches, galaxies, bacteria .. are matter. Brains produce intentions, reflections, remembrances, ... . So (at least some) matter of the cosmos has psychical (mental) properties. The body+mind idea, the idea that mind is something separate from body, is perhaps the worst idea ever invented. @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
