> On 3 May 2019, at 04:41, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote: > > Considering how vast we have come to realise the Universe to be, do you > honestly think our praise or our insults affect God in any way?
Yes, []f does not implies f, in G (terrestrial reality) > Do you even realise how great the Creator of all this must be? After Gödel, we understand that we have no idea how the arithmetical is. It is beyond all effective theories. It requires axiom if infinities, and an infinity of them, to get a bit of light on it. > Do you think God would need any appreciation from us? Us, the terrestrial being (effective) beings? No, of course. But “us” can be taken in some other senses. > Rather, it is we who need to appreciate God! Yes. If only to avoid the possible crash, if possible. > > God created the entire creation and He governs it flawlessly according to His > Laws. The entire creation submits to His Laws, except some criminals… How come? With mechanism, it might be different. God created the natural numbers, and saw it was good, Then he told to the numbers “add yourself”, and saw it was good, Then he told to the numbers “multiply yourself”, and he said: oops! And he lost itself in a labyrinth of dreams, waking up from time to time, but enjoying the infinite many way to encounter itself, recognising itself, or not, … Justice (the good) requires truth (the god), but truth cannot avoid the injustice, even in arithmetic. It is up to us to minimise the pain, and the harm. > > The way I understand it, we, humans and snakes, are criminals who have been > contained on a planet. Our collective crime is that we abused our free will > to go against the Universal Laws. We have an appointment, in the Divine > Court, that will be kept as scheduled. We have been given a temporal life so > that each one of us can generate evidence (data: speech and deeds) for or > against ourselves. We just feel superior from time to time, we fool ourselves, we confuse the truth we thing we found with the one that we search, ... > > Remembering God through prayer, and Praising God by repeatedly declaring that > God is free from all imperfection, helps us to understand and consequently be > pleased with God, contented to submit to His Laws and Decrees, and grateful > for the guidance, looking forward to an immortal life of luxury and perhaps > the most prestigious jobs anyone can ever aspire for: in service of Allah, > The One and Only God, The KIng of the Mighty Throne of The Entire Creation! Lao-ze is closer to the universal machine. To give a Name to God is blasphemy. With the universal machine, just to say “I believe in god” is a blasphemy, although it can be simply corrected by domain typing, and localisation, but then it is not the big unnameable ONE, of course. > > There is no compulsion to follow God's Laws, but the criminals will not be > allowed to leave this planet. They will go from living upon it to living > within it, in The Fire! Yes, but we shouldn’t confuse our own judgement with the judgement of God, and only God can judge if someone is a criminal or not. We can only judge/evaluate if some neighbours threat our life or not. We can’t teach virtue, except by examplar behaviour. We cannot claim the truth. Bruno > > Related Posts <https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html> > > Samiya Illias > Signs & Science <https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/> > > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 5:00 PM John Clark <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:54 AM 'Brent Meeker' > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > > Islam is a religion based almost entirely on threats. > > True, but in all fairness Christianity is also based on threats. It preaches > that faith (believing in something when there is no good reason for doing so) > is not stupidity but is instead the ultimate virtue, and if you don't believe > in all the crap that Christianity (or Islam) says then a good and loving God > will torture you most fiendishly not for 10^100 years but for an infinite > number of years. I'm no saint but I wouldn't do that to a unrepentant Hitler, > and yet another thing we're suposed to do is constantly flatter God by > telling Him how good He is. > > The Meaning of Life: Praise the Lord > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7sF4JzjwTg> > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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