> On 27 May 2019, at 14:19, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 7:19 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > From a (neo)platonic perspective, atheism is a slight variant of > > Christianity: > > I see. So according to the (neo) platonic perspective a philosophy that says > there is no God
You need to use the word “god” in the sense of the neoplatonist, which might not believe in the God “matter”. Neoplatonist are usually “atheist” with respect to physicalism, or with respect to the idea that the physical reality is at the origin of the other (psychological) realities. I remind you that we have define “God” by whatever is responsible for our conscious experience. The atheist and post-529 christians are believer in the “second God of Aristotle” i.e. a primitively material universe, or a primitively physical universe. > is just a slight variant of a philosophy that says Jesus is the son of a God Not all christians interpret this literally, but most christians and most atheists believe that the physical reality as a primitively ontological reality. > who is omnipotent and omniscient and created the universe and became furious > with the entire human race because one if its members ate an apple even after > being specifically instructed not to and even though He is omnipotent the > only way He could forgive the humans is if they slowly tortured His son to > death. > > And thus after examining all the statistically significant evidence in the > matter I can conclude with considerable confidence that the (neo) platonic > perspective is as dumb as dog shit. And I hypothesize that is the reason the > (neo) platonic perspective has not advanced a nanometer in 2500 years. Neoplatonism has given all sciences. When it has been forbidden in Occident after 529, it has escape in the Middle East, where the progress has continued up to 1248, where Islam fell in the same trap than the christians (the pre-eminence of the texts on reason). Neoplantonism will escape back in Occident where it will lead to the Renaissance, and enacted again the judo-islmo-greek sciences, except for theology which is still in the hand of the pseudo-religion which used the argument per-authority. I have discover that in all place and time when neoplatonism was the mainstream metaphysics, the place were prosper, peaceful and science made big progresses. Bruno > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2-v9AvELDcBgF%3Dx59uZU52WRxbU3v_koEi26U%2BzhFw0w%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2-v9AvELDcBgF%3Dx59uZU52WRxbU3v_koEi26U%2BzhFw0w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4CBF8286-3836-4218-A04A-E8E3D8C9BBB9%40ulb.ac.be.
