On 5/29/2019 3:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 May 2019, at 21:59, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
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On 5/28/2019 12:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
You need to use the word “god” in the sense of the neoplatonist, which might
not believe in the God “matter”.
Neoplatonist are usually “atheist” with respect to physicalism, or with respect
to the idea that the physical reality is at the origin of the other
(psychological) realities.
I remind you that we have define “God” by whatever is responsible for our
conscious experience. The atheist and post-529 christians are believer in the
“second God of Aristotle” i.e. a primitively material universe, or a
primitively physical universe.
I'm reminded of a quip by Bertrand Russell:
“People are more unwilling to give up the word ‘God’ than to give up the idea
for which the word has hitherto stood”
Yes, but the first meaning in God in the serious literature
That is the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. It is imposing your view that
literature is not "serious" unless it comports with your view...even
though your view is an esoteric one not shared by the billions of people
who pray and worship the God of their ancestors. You propose to steal
their work "God" because...why?, you want to borrow the awe and
authority wielded by a priesthood? And don't tell me you are using it
in the original meaning. God was given a meaning many thousands of
years before Plato and it meant a supernatural human-like agent:
Agdistis or Angdistis, Ah Puch, Ahura Mazda, Alberich, Allah, Amaterasu,
An, Anansi, Anat, Andvari, Anshar, Anu, Aphrodite, Apollo, Apsu, Ares,
Artemis, Asclepius, Athena, Athirat, Athtart, Atlas, Baal, Ba Xian,
Bacchus, Balder, Bast, Bellona, Bergelmir, Bes, Bixia Yuanjin, Bragi,
Brahma, Brent, Brigit,...Si-Wang-Mu, Sin, Sirona, Sol, Surya, Susanoh,
Tawaret, Tefnut, Tezcatlipoca, Thanatos, Thor, Thoth, Tiamat, Tianhou,
Tlaloc, Tonatiuh, Toyo-Uke-Bime, Tyche, Tyr, Utu, Uzume, Vediovis,
Venus, Vesta, Vishnu, Volturnus, Vulcan, Xipe, Xi Wang-mu, Xochipilli,
Xochiquetzal, Yam, Yarikh, YHWH, Ymir, Yu-huang, Yum Kimil or Zeus?
Brent
was “whatever” is at the origin of Reality. In this list we have certainly
given up the idea that we have the answer, or even that if such answer exists,
it can be communicate with certainty.
Those who keep the idea and the term are those who defends the dogma, even when
it is just to criticise it.
Bruno
Brent
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