> On 28 May 2019, at 21:59, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 5/28/2019 12:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> You need to use the word “god” in the sense of the neoplatonist, which might 
>> not believe in the God “matter”.
>> 
>> Neoplatonist are usually “atheist” with respect to physicalism, or with 
>> respect to the idea that the physical reality is at the origin of the other 
>> (psychological) realities.
>> 
>> I remind you that we have define “God” by whatever is responsible for our 
>> conscious experience. The atheist and post-529 christians are believer in 
>> the “second God of Aristotle” i.e. a primitively material universe, or a 
>> primitively physical universe.
> 
> I'm reminded of a quip by Bertrand Russell:
> 
> “People are more unwilling to give up the word ‘God’ than to give up the idea 
> for which the word has hitherto stood”

Yes, but the first meaning in God in the serious literature was “whatever” is 
at the origin of Reality. In this list we have certainly given up the idea that 
we have the answer, or even that if such answer exists, it can be communicate 
with certainty.

Those who keep the idea and the term are those who defends the dogma, even when 
it is just to criticise it.

Bruno



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