> On 28 May 2019, at 13:55, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:38 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> On 27 May 2019, at 14:19, John Clark <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 7:19 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> I see. So according to the (neo) platonic perspective a philosophy that says >> there is no God is just a slight variant of a philosophy that says Jesus is >> the son of a God who is omnipotent and omniscient and created the universe >> and became furious with the entire human race because one if its members ate >> an apple even after being specifically instructed not to and even though He >> is omnipotent the only way He could forgive the humans is if they slowly >> tortured His son to death. > You need to use the word “god” in the sense of the neoplatonist, > > If so then I can conclude with considerable confidence that the neoplatonist > are as dumb as dog shit for thinking they have made a great philosophical > discovery by abandoning the idea of God but not the ASCII sequence G-O-D.
They did, actually. The official term for the Neoplatonist is the ONE. It is reflects the monist idea in the fundamental science. Then they discuss the nature of this One, and Plotinus already explained why it is not among the being (like the taoist, when they say that what is responsible for the being cannot be a being, and this is akin to Cantor’s idea, and followers, that the set of all sets cannot be a set, like Plotinus explains that the Number of the numbers is not a number). > > > > Neoplatonism has given all sciences. When it has been forbidden in Occident > > after 529, it has escape in the Middle East, where the progress has > > continued up to 1248, where Islam fell in the same trap than the christians > > [...] I have discover that in all place and time when neoplatonism was the > > mainstream metaphysics, the place were prosper, peaceful and science made > > big progresses. > > > Before about 1248 dead Greek philosophers had a iron grip on the thoughts of > European thinkers. This period is sometimes called the Dark Ages. ? > About 1248 Roger Bacon made the first modest steps toward the scientific > mething and slightly loosened the stranglehold on imagination and creativity > that dead Greek Philosophers had held for a thousand years. This period is > sometimes called the Renaissance. ? Renaissance is when the translation of the greek philosophers came in Europa, after neoplatonism was made illegal (so to speak) in the Middle-east. By mocking the idea to let theology come back to reason, you defend the statu quo in religion, the ambiant relativisme, and, de facto, the institutionalised charlatanry in the domain. Bruno <<I was barked at by numerous dogs who are earning their food guarding ignorance and superstition for the benefit of those who profit from it. Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is of the same kind as the intolerance of the religious fanatics and comes from the same source. They are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chain which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who---in their grudge against the traditional "opium for people"---cannot bear the music of the spheres. The Wonder of nature does not become smaller because one cannot measure it by the standards of human moral and humans aims.>> (Einstein, See the book by Max Jammer on "Einstein and Religion", page 97). > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv08RbFOK9zEUChotc5xWGusxxJS32pDvaJ3oaVW7o0%3DsA%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv08RbFOK9zEUChotc5xWGusxxJS32pDvaJ3oaVW7o0%3DsA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/D9891298-252B-462B-A39A-C63C1BD7E2B2%40ulb.ac.be.
