Look, Sam, you're not going to succeed at Dawa here, unless you get into the 
weeds, via physics. So, thus, you have got to be prepared to peek over Allah's 
shoulder and answer the biggest questions of all, not the Why questions, but 
the How, the mechanics of How Mister Allah does his things, say, 'qiama'  

You must show how the mechanics will work, based on cause and effect. 
Otherwise, it's merely running away from the difficult issues of How. If you 
are afraid to offend, the Big Guy, that's a personal issue. 
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On 02-Jun-2019, at 11:38 PM, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
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Here the materialist often fails, as they talk like if they knew primitive 
matter exists,  
 
 A straw man.  Nothing I wrote referred to primitive matter.

The Quran does mention the existence of something before and beyond the 
‘universe/ cosmos/ space’ we live in. This may be of interest: 
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