The problem is that these guys are doing brainwork, while you are saying Mashallah, or, Inshallah, and going on your merry way. This has been done by the Uma for centuries and (it still is!) , in the face of Europeans, centuries ago, who were willing to do philosophy (Beyond Averoes), your team lost. In being willing to challenge The Big Guy, the Christians, and Atheists were also able to gain ground in science and machinery. Based on this, maybe the Dude upstairs, like a challenge. intellectually speaking? Maybe not? If it's not your thing, you fear gahanim, or being disloyal , understandable.
-----Original Message----- From: Samiya Illias <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2019 1:07 am Subject: Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity Nobody succeeds at Dawah except as Allah wills. I'm not trying to do Dawah, just trying to keep my duty. This is how I understand it: The Quran I see a lot of speculative discussions on this list where even the basic assumptions are unknown. The word primitive matter, etc, keep popping up, so I shared what I know from the source I trust. On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 3:04 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: Look, Sam, you're not going to succeed at Dawa here, unless you get into the weeds, via physics. So, thus, you have got to be prepared to peek over Allah's shoulder and answer the biggest questions of all, not the Why questions, but the How, the mechanics of How Mister Allah does his things, say, 'qiama' You must show how the mechanics will work, based on cause and effect. Otherwise, it's merely running away from the difficult issues of How. If you are afraid to offend, the Big Guy, that's a personal issue. -----Original Message----- From: Samiya Illias <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2019 11:00 pm Subject: Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity On 02-Jun-2019, at 11:38 PM, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: Here the materialist often fails, as they talk like if they knew primitive matter exists, A straw man. Nothing I wrote referred to primitive matter. The Quran does mention the existence of something before and beyond the ‘universe/ cosmos/ space’ we live in. This may be of interest: https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2019/01/space-before-and-beyond.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/5FA9BBDF-1EAB-46A1-9270-0C9935CA13EF%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1518708800.10240701.1559599468163%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CANgFmkH%2B0uPAWvgJ3BxmYuNGPzJOyyXrn2S65fa5xpBcUihD3Q%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/769703804.4305546.1559668969517%40mail.yahoo.com.
