Nobody succeeds at Dawah except as Allah wills. I'm not trying to do Dawah,
just trying to keep my duty. This is how I understand it: The Quran
<https://islam-qna.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-quran.html>
I see a lot of speculative discussions on this list where even the basic
assumptions are unknown. The word primitive matter, etc, keep popping up,
so I shared what I know from the source I trust.

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 3:04 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Look, Sam, you're not going to succeed at Dawa here, unless you get into
> the weeds, via physics. So, thus, you have got to be prepared to peek over
> Allah's shoulder and answer the biggest questions of all, not the Why
> questions, but the How, the mechanics of How Mister Allah does his things,
> say, 'qiama'
>
> You must show how the mechanics will work, based on cause and effect.
> Otherwise, it's merely running away from the difficult issues of How. If
> you are afraid to offend, the Big Guy, that's a personal issue.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Samiya Illias <[email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2019 11:00 pm
> Subject: Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity
>
>
>
> On 02-Jun-2019, at 11:38 PM, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Here the materialist often fails, as they talk like if they knew primitive 
> matter exists,
>
>
> A straw man.  Nothing I wrote referred to *primitive* matter.
>
>
> The Quran does mention the existence of something before and beyond the
> ‘universe/ cosmos/ space’ we live in. This may be of interest:
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2019/01/space-before-and-beyond.html
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