On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 16:32, John Clark wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 9:52 AM Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> If the police worked for profit making corporations and every person >>> >> could choose which corporation to buy police protection from please >>> >> explain to me how 40 million Germans could murder 6 million Jews. >> >> Private police organizations would have every incentive to merge and form >> monopolies, > > Why would if be financially beneficial for a Private Protection Agency (PPA) > that was being payed by 6 million Jews to merge with a PPA that was being > payed by 40 million Germans that want to murder them? A Jew would be willing > to pay whatever it took, up to and including his entire net worth, to keep > from getting murdered, but I doubt if even the most rabid anti semite would > pay more than 1 or 2% to murder a Jew. In anrcho-libertarianism you can have > much more influence with things that are *REALLY* important to you than just > one man one vote.
I have read a version of this argument first in "The Machinery of Freedom" by David Friedman, and I found it quite compelling. I would even say that it could work, if society was forever structured by individuals and contracts between them. The problem is that rational actors qiuckly find the power of scale effects, thus corporations and corporate mergers. Then suddenly you have one enity that can offset all the individual contributions of the people it wants to get rid of. Consider the "war on drugs". I think we might agree that it is a collossal failure, that not only did not stop drug traffic, but it contributed to make street drugs more dangerous and destroyed countless lives with prison sentences for victimless crimes. And yet, we can't seem to get rid of those laws. Who is lobbying for such laws to stay in the books? Private prisions, pharmaceutical companies and police sindicates. Consider that the vast majority of people are religious. Consider how quickly you could be in the situation of the jews, through other mechanisms arising from the accumulation of power in a small number of actors. > >> *> there is no simple solution, no silver bullet. * > > I agree, what I have just said is of little practical use. Yes that would be > the way to go if we were starting from scratch but we are not and there is > virtually no chance of getting there before a technological singularity > occurs. I always knew I'd have to modify my libertarian views someday but AI > has been advancing faster than I expected so I had to make the modification > sooner than I expected. We must make the best of the institutions that > already exist, like government, and try to push it in the right direction. Ok. I entertained libertarian ideas for some time, and modified my views for the exact same reasons you state. I guess we agree after all. > But Trump is pushing the government in the opposite direction that is > needed. Indeed. Trump is Putin, but with a much lower IQ. An autocrat and a mafia boss. I hope that your republic can survive him. Telmo. > > John K Clark > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv32BkLNb1RtUvtmqcLW9NJzzP9sbPBY3%3DOjXhmLz_1fxQ%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv32BkLNb1RtUvtmqcLW9NJzzP9sbPBY3%3DOjXhmLz_1fxQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/dde488bc-50be-4878-92ea-e53644e0afae%40www.fastmail.com.
