On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 12:34:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 6/5/2019 6:04 PM, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker' < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > >> * >Do you call ISIS and Hezbollah governments? * >> > > They make laws, force people to pay taxes ,conscript them into their army. > and give people no choice. It sure sounds like a government to me. > > >> * > Of course under almost all governments it is illegal to kill any >> citizen for pay. * >> > > Solderers are payed by the government and so are the police, and they have > both been known to kill people, sometimes on a industrial scale.. > > >> * > I don't think anarcho-libertarians are, on average, more immune to >> racist, populist fear-mongering that other people. * >> > > I don't either but the morality of anarcho-libertarians has nothing to do > with it. There will be a Private Protection Agency protecting Jews and if > there is another one that is trying to kill them then the employees of both > agencies will have very dangerous jobs and both will expect to be very well > payed . > > > Those are called armies. So why didn't the Jews have an army? And it's > not just Jews, it's Roma, and homosexuals and atheists and guys who crossed > Hitler in politics? What you're suggesting is every man for himself. > Which of course quickly leads to forming tribes of mutual protection, which > leads to city states, which leads to nations, which apparently doesn't lead > to rational world government. > > I maintain that the agency protecting the Jews will be much better payed > (and thus it will attract the most skilled warriors) and also they will > be.much better equipped than the agency that would like to kill them > because the 6 million Jews would be willing to spend everything they have > if needed for protection while the 40 million Germans would not.be > willing to spend everything they had on destruction. > > Another good thing is that when its clear that the soldiers on both sides > are just fighting for money then all the current crap associated with war, > like glory duty and heroism , would be diminished and the job of soldiering > would seem no more glorious than being a hedge fund manager on Wall Street > . > > > That's my main criticism of libertarianism...it assumes people are just > motivated by money. Money's only one form of power. German soldiers were > not especially well paid by the Nazis. And why would the Russians care > whether Hitler or Stalin ruled them? Did Osama pay the 9/11 guys well? > > I'm reminded of Bruno's theory that everything is computation...and so > everything must be explainable in terms of computation. > > Brent >
All on YouTube: The long interviews of Ayn Rand in 1959 (w/ Mike Wallace) and 1979 (w/ Phil Donahue). The "philosophy of libertarianism" at its "best" (or "beast"). @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/9ae96b34-f842-4bc2-867c-6ce4a9c1e8e8%40googlegroups.com.
