On 6/5/2019 6:04 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker'
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/>Do you call ISIS and Hezbollah governments? /
They make laws, force people to pay taxes ,conscript them into their
army. and give people no choice. It sure sounds like a government to me.
/> Of course under almost all governments it is illegal to kill
any citizen for pay. /
Solderers are payed by the government and so are the police, and they
have both been known to kill people, sometimes on a industrial scale..
/> I don't think anarcho-libertarians are, on average, more immune
to racist, populist fear-mongering that other people. /
I don't either but the morality of anarcho-libertarians has nothing to
do with it. There will be a Private Protection Agency protecting Jews
and if there is another one that is trying to kill them then the
employees of both agencies will have very dangerous jobs and both will
expect to be very well payed .
Those are called armies. So why didn't the Jews have an army? And it's
not just Jews, it's Roma, and homosexuals and atheists and guys who
crossed Hitler in politics? What you're suggesting is every man for
himself. Which of course quickly leads to forming tribes of mutual
protection, which leads to city states, which leads to nations, which
apparently doesn't lead to rational world government.
I maintain that the agency protecting the Jews will be much better
payed (and thus it will attract the most skilled warriors) and also
they will be.much better equipped than the agency that would like to
kill them because the 6 million Jews would be willing to spend
everything they have if needed for protection while the 40 million
Germans would not.be <http://not.be> willing to spend everything they
had on destruction.
Another good thing is that when its clear that the soldiers on both
sides are just fighting for money then all the current crap associated
with war, like glory duty and heroism , would be diminished and the
job of soldiering would seem no more glorious than being a hedge fund
manager on Wall Street.
That's my main criticism of libertarianism...it assumes people are just
motivated by money. Money's only one form of power. German soldiers
were not especially well paid by the Nazis. And why would the Russians
care whether Hitler or Stalin ruled them? Did Osama pay the 9/11 guys well?
I'm reminded of Bruno's theory that everything is computation...and so
everything must be explainable in terms of computation.
Brent
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