On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
>> There will be a Private Protection Agency protecting Jews and if there >> is another one that is trying to kill them then the employees of both >> agencies will have very dangerous jobs and both will expect to be very well >> payed . > > > * > Those are called armies. So why didn't the Jews have an army? * > The Jews didn't have an army to protect them because of government, a government that was powerful enough to enforce its decrees, such as there can only be one army and they were the only one that could conscript men into it, and the only one that could make laws, and the only one that could collect taxers to pay for the army. > *What you're suggesting is every man for himself. * > No, I'm just suggesting if we were starting from scratch it would be better if the group one belong to was not forced and was based on more than just geographical location. I'm suggesting it would be better if people had some choice about which set of laws they would obey. Obviously the laws can't be tailor made specifically for just one individual like your "every man for himself" straw man, that would never work, but it's weird people worry so much about corporate monopolies but are oblivious to the largest monopoly of them all, the government. And if you took all the evil every corporation has ever done and concentrated it into one spot it would amount to little more than rudeness compared to the horrors committed by government; yes Facebook may not have treated the private information of its users with enough respect but at least it didn't stick them into ovens. I'm suggesting it would have been nice of the Jews had been given some choice. In 1933 if the Nazis didn't have a monopoly on making laws collecting taxes conscripting men and forming armies I'm sure the 6 million Jews would have chosen a Private Protection Agency that enforced a law that said you can't murder Jews. Unfortunatly the Jews couldn't do that in 1933 due to the government monopoly. * > That's my main criticism of libertarianism...it assumes people are just > motivated by money. Money's only one form of power. German soldiers were > not especially well paid by the Nazis. * > True, they were payed little and yet Nazi soldiers fought with great bravery. Why? One reason is they'd be shot if they didn't. Another reason is that among all the other monopolies the Nazis also had a monopoly on education and the distribution of information and could therefore indoctrinate the population with crap like the importance of the Fatherland, and total obedience, and sacrifice, and courage, and martial glory. > > *> Did Osama pay the 9/11 guys well?* > Yes, he promised they would each get payed 77 virgins after they performed that little task, and being religious, they fell for it. * > I'm reminded of Bruno's theory that everything is computation...and so > everything must be explainable in terms of computation.* > That's not the fundamental problem with Bruno's theory, it's the idea a pure number can make a calculation. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2hAe_OaynqgN0U1RtgdMXPyJYFsb6Uj_m2uPT101BhtA%40mail.gmail.com.
