On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, at 00:38, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:24 AM Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Le lun. 24 juin 2019 à 22:00, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >> <[email protected]> a écrit : >>> On 6/24/2019 12:56 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>>> Le lun. 24 juin 2019 à 20:52, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>>> <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> What is "ordered"? A sample is just a sample, it has no order. If quantum >>>>> immortality is true, then you must exist at all ages. And a sample from >>>>> that distribution is unlikely to find you young. Sure, if you condition >>>>> on being young, then you will see young people around you...because >>>>> whether you are young or not you will see young people around you. The >>>>> problem is that YOU are most likely to be old. >>>> >>>> The thing is you had to be young first. You're talking with ASSA in mind. >>>> ASSA is nonsense. >>> >>> So if I go on a thousand mile journey I'm most likely to find myself within >>> a mile of my starting point. I think THAT's nonsense. >> >> >> You're not talking about mwi but a theory where moments exist by themselves >> and are selected randomly... That's nonsense. > > On the theory of quantum immortality, you have many more old moments than > young moments.
I disagree. Assuming that our timelines are constantly branching and that for every amount of time t that we live there is some p probability that we die for some reasons, and worst yet, this probability increases as we get older, this tree will become sparser the deeper you go. If you apply self-sampling reasoning to the observer moments contained in that tree, even though it may contain very deep branches, the probability of finding oneself at such as depth becomes astronomically low. I would claim that the very assumptions that quantum immortality rests on make it nonsensical to restrict self-sampling to a single timeline. Telmo. > If it is nonsense that this means that you are more likely to find yourself > old, then this is the same nonsense that underlies any account of quantum > phenomena in terms of self-location on some branch of the wave function or > the other. > > > Bruce > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLTTRSng8Yi4CvD7NOynM7VWd3vgY6j6abgCZxKx8CUDOw%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLTTRSng8Yi4CvD7NOynM7VWd3vgY6j6abgCZxKx8CUDOw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ccba6dbf-c2f0-4e45-bcb2-bb68657b2f6e%40www.fastmail.com.
