> On 26 Jun 2019, at 23:17, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 6/26/2019 7:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> The scientist is the guy able to doubt, to say “I don’t know” or “I am nots >> sure”. >> > > > > One only needs to be an ironist. Many scientists today (ones who write for > the public, and and are widely quoted) are not. > > >> .. >> >> Then with mechanism, it seems that the scientific attitude is the same as >> the religious attitude, > > > Perhaps it is the idea of Mechanism that has led scientists to turn science, > once a liberating enterprise, into a religion, as Feyerabend said.
That could make sense with some reductionist conception of machines, but it is already absent in Descartes (but poorly understood, like by Damasio’s “Descrates’ Error”). Digital Mechanism just permit to handle religious question with the scientific method. But Aristotle materialism is a religion, indeed a sub-religion of many christians and atheist. The whole God/no_god debate hides the original question: Universe or not Universe. With science we don’t know the truth, but we can propose theories, and prove theorem *in* theories. In the theory YD+CT, the notion of ontological Universe does no more make sense, but we can test mechanism, and proceed. Technical weakness: it invites to study Mathematics. Bruno > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/c4dc0cf5-a6af-4c4a-bf32-b4d99a2eb96a%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/c4dc0cf5-a6af-4c4a-bf32-b4d99a2eb96a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8175FFB7-3036-4171-9BBB-E9D16D2447CF%40ulb.ac.be.
