> On 13 Jul 2019, at 12:31, PGC <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Saturday, July 13, 2019 at 10:41:00 AM UTC+2, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > I need a formula, and means to test it experimentally. Just to make some > sense, and compare with the consequence of Mechanism. > > If you disagree with the proof of the incompatibility of Mechanism and (weak) > Materialism, it would be nice to explain why. > > "Mechanism" is not refutable.
Digital Mechanism is not refutable by introspection. But as it implies that physics, and notably the logic of the observable obeys some logics (indeed some quantum logic), it can be refuted (or judged less plausible) by comparing the physical principles extracted from Mechanism with the observation. Up to now, thanks to the “quantum weirdness” and its “many-histories” interpretation, Mechanism fits with the observation. > Who could refute that working works? Digital Mechanism is the idea that the brain is Turing emulable, with consciousness and personal identity preserved at some level of description. Bruno > Personal mysticism/philosophy as long as the means to test it enjoy the same > ontological status as duplicating machines and ideal quantum computers; > wishful thinking until credible evidence exists. > > It's clear you get off selling people a bill of goods, posing as a worldwide > expert on this list for years, as you don't have the means to test for > yourself what you attack "physicalists" for believing. > > None of this is about "debate". That's the con. Everybody knows and justifies > their miseries to themselves. Falsities and ambiguities perpetuated in some > validation screen addiction, instead of accomplishment, effort, respect, and > risk. All we need is the semblance of "debate". > > You need to confirm your positions to yourselves? And you're looking to do so > on the internet? Lol it's 2019. PGC > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/37a3c0e7-9c24-45ae-bb12-730f5c091398%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/37a3c0e7-9c24-45ae-bb12-730f5c091398%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/EE7D60D0-4BE9-474D-A941-B800FCE2F726%40ulb.ac.be.
