> On 16 Jul 2019, at 13:44, PGC <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 1:53:11 PM UTC+2, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 14 Jul 2019, at 15:01, PGC <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 11:00:30 AM UTC+2, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 13 Jul 2019, at 12:31, PGC <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, July 13, 2019 at 10:41:00 AM UTC+2, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> I need a formula, and means to test it experimentally. Just to make some >>> sense, and compare with the consequence of Mechanism. >>> >>> If you disagree with the proof of the incompatibility of Mechanism and >>> (weak) Materialism, it would be nice to explain why. >>> >>> "Mechanism" is not refutable. >> >> Digital Mechanism is not refutable by introspection. But as it implies that >> physics, and notably the logic of the observable obeys some logics (indeed >> some quantum logic), it can be refuted (or judged less plausible) by >> comparing the physical principles extracted from Mechanism with the >> observation. Up to now, thanks to the “quantum weirdness” and its >> “many-histories” interpretation, Mechanism fits with the observation. >> >> >> Retrodiction plus the usual oversimplification. What a surprise. >> >> A historically nuanced view encompassing developments in all supposed fields >> up to the present day, which conveniently don't include philosophical >> (assemble Greek scholars for your interpretations and cite them, if you hold >> yours truly to be wrong), metaphysical, literal, and aesthetic developments >> - "mechanism fitting with observation" is an unclear aesthetic/personal >> standard of evidence - and would never pass any university >> department/academic panel worth its salt. > > I don’t understand well what you say. > > Nobody, including yourself, understands what you say generally.
Just tell me what you don’t understand specifically, and avoid ad hominem attack. It bores everybody, and distract from the thread. Bruno > It changes every week to accommodate the latest discourse. > > The whole discursive setup you practice here, with transparent ideological > vilification of alleged physicalists and victimization of some allegedly holy > platonic side depends on one thing: distance. At least a perceived distance. > It depends on people not knowing each other and therefore on folks willing to > fear and blame each other because your discourse isn't informed to the > contrary. > > That's a highly warped and sad, cynical view of the world. I hope you do > better for yourself and those around you. > > You're being dismissive to the world + yourself: Who questions peoples’ > alleged attachments to “Aristotle hypothesis” or whatever the flavor of the > week or month is? > > Who assumes themselves to have a mandate to interfere in how other people > parse reality? Who tries to force everybody's discourse into their own > interpretations without asking? I'm telling you for years: it's rude. Quit > the games. Respect people along with yourself. You care about your work? Then > work on building consensus - listen and read others as equals - instead of > trying to conquer discourse. Folks that force their topics and > interpretations each and every chance they get lack good faith in others and > themselves. The hyper polite humble non-aggressive style doesn't fool > anybody. The academic "with mechanism - we xyz blah blah" => there is no "we" > or "mechanism" with your monologues of some entitled feeling leader and > agreements from a few credulous minions. > > Everybody knows that violence can be hidden in the most neutral, > non-aggressive discourse. > > Do yourself the favor of being you, instead of the muppet of some alleged > platonism. Stop robbing time from yourself and members of this list with this > kind of discourse. PGC > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/63aab716-bef0-48fb-a358-4ddaa289840f%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/63aab716-bef0-48fb-a358-4ddaa289840f%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/53760440-1E54-4D12-90ED-EF7A42612DF3%40ulb.ac.be.
