On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 14:51, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 7/22/2019 9:31 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > > On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 12:07, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On 7/22/2019 6:19 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> >> You might wish to maintain this theory, but you, yourself, have directly >>> contradicted it by saying that our sense of self depends on the inputs to >>> the brain. The qualification "directly" adds nothing but obfuscation. >>> >> >> The inputs to the brain affect the brain state, and our experiences >> depend on the brain state. If a particular brain state could be implemented >> in the absence of inputs, the experience would be the same as if the inputs >> were there. Do you disagree with this? >> >> >> I disagree with it. Experiences are not states, they're processes and >> the processes include the inputs. Probably you can have experiences >> without sensory input, although as I recall when sensory deprivation >> research was popular it was found that after a half-hour or less one's >> thoughts tended to enter a closed loop. >> > > Hallucinations are experiences in the absence of the usual input. > > > How do you know that? Why aren't they just unusual responses to the input? > The patient says he can hear his neighbour saying he is going to kill him, but no-one else can hear this. Sometimes there is a different sound, such as of traffic or the wind, which is misinterpreted as voices, sometimes there is no sound at all. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAH%3D2ypW_79frTbByQ5LQatpSQ9YvGHFc04UG6B3q8S5Ez2E%2Bcw%40mail.gmail.com.
