On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 12:54:42 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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> On 9/6/2019 10:21 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 12:14:07 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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>> On 9/6/2019 9:51 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>> > I would put "Horganism" another way.
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>> > Science tells stories/theories, and some are successful in their
>> > application. But we don't know if any of the stories are the final
>> > ones to be told, or even close to being final. (They probably are
>> > not.) There is no settled story of gravity yet, much less
>> > consciousness. One reads about a new story of gravity in science news
>> > every week, it seems.
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>> > David Chalmers' conclusion is ...
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>> > "I think that the Hegelian [dialectical] argument gives good reason to
>> > take both panpsychism and panprotopsychism very seriously. If we can
>> > find a reasonable solution to the combination problem for either, this
>> > view would immediately become the most promising solution to the
>> > mind–body problem. So the combination problem deserves serious and
>> > sustained attention."
>> > - http://consc.net/papers/panpsychism.pdf
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>> Zero predictive power and it's not clear that it's consistent with the
>> rest of neurophysics.
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>> Brent
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> Sean Carroll is on a nationwide speaking tour now evangelizing Many Worlds.
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> What is the predictive power of Many Worlds?
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> None, unless someone can figure out how to derive Born's rule from
> it...which I think is impossible. But it does go a way toward making the
> story of measurement more consistent.
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> Brent
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Maybe. But the wider point is Sean Carroll's unlinking (strict)
observability from science.
https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2018/01/17/beyond-falsifiability/
(which many have exploded over).
In Sean's world, if a vocabulary of unobservables fits into a scientific
fabric somehow, then it's tenable. Maybe that's OK. Who knows.
@philipthrift
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