On 9/6/2019 11:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 12:54:42 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 9/6/2019 10:21 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 12:14:07 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 9/6/2019 9:51 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
>
> I would put "Horganism" another way.
>
> Science tells stories/theories, and some are successful in
their
> application. But we don't know if any of the stories are
the final
> ones to be told, or even close to being final. (They
probably are
> not.) There is no settled story of gravity yet, much less
> consciousness. One reads about a new story of gravity in
science news
> every week, it seems.
>
> David Chalmers' conclusion is ...
>
> "I think that the Hegelian [dialectical] argument gives
good reason to
> take both panpsychism and panprotopsychism very seriously.
If we can
> find a reasonable solution to the combination problem for
either, this
> view would immediately become the most promising solution
to the
> mind–body problem. So the combination problem deserves
serious and
> sustained attention."
> - http://consc.net/papers/panpsychism.pdf
<http://consc.net/papers/panpsychism.pdf>
Zero predictive power and it's not clear that it's consistent
with the
rest of neurophysics.
Brent
Sean Carroll is on a nationwide speaking tour now evangelizing
Many Worlds.
What is the predictive power of Many Worlds?
None, unless someone can figure out how to derive Born's rule from
it...which I think is impossible. But it does go a way toward
making the story of measurement more consistent.
Brent
Maybe. But the wider point is Sean Carroll's unlinking (strict)
observability from science.
https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2018/01/17/beyond-falsifiability/
(which many have exploded over).
In Sean's world, if a vocabulary of unobservables fits into a
scientific fabric somehow, then it's tenable. Maybe that's OK. Who knows.
I think the measurement problem ultimately needs a theory of
consciousness to bottom out, and I think computationalism and the
"engineering theory of consciousness" will fill that need.
Brent
@philipthrift
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