> On 18 Sep 2019, at 23:01, Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> 
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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> On 9/18/2019 11:55 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 12:14:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/18/2019 3:02 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: 
>> > I think he means one can replace a human brain and/or nervous system 
>> > with computer microchips and consciousness will be preserved, or 
>> > perfectly simulated so the person who says "Yes doctor", will awake 
>> > from the surgery thinking he/she's the same person, like awakening 
>> > from unremarkable surgery. From my pov, this belief is a huge, huge 
>> > stretch since we can even define what consciousness IS. 
>> 
>> Define in terms of what?  We define it ostensively.  How would it help 
>> to define it in words? 
>> 
>> Brent 
>> 
>> Ostensively? What do you mean? You know, there are things we call 
>> "dictionaries" where words are defined. If we have no way to define 
>> "consciousness", we have no chance of understanding it. AG
> 
> Like this.  Imagine an elephant.  
> 
> Ok, that was you being conscious of an elephant.
> 
> Brent
> 
> Actually I first "imaged" Dumbo, the Disney cartoon character. :)

That happen often to fictionalist :)

Bruno


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