On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 12:31:15 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/15/2019 5:51 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > The claim of panprotopsychism* is not that simple material (or in > > this case, arithmetical) entities think, but they manifest the > > (proto-thinking) ingredients that when combined into more complex > > entities think. > > But then it adds nothing to the materialist theory that thinking is a > certain process that some sufficiently complex systems can do. > > Brent > > Some AI scientists say that an AI can't really think until it is conscious. So the most advanced Watson (can answer any academic question in a Wikipedia-automatic way) or whatever can't be said to be a thinking machine. So if one thinks consciousness is a real thing, then what does "complex" mean for a system to be conscious?
Obviously consciousness is material because the matter in our skulls (sometimes) has it, and matter is all there is. But what is the "complex" (what does that word even mean?) nature of that matter? @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e85e5488-6693-4107-a343-02c617a1c8ed%40googlegroups.com.
