On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 6:04:44 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 1/24/2020 3:42 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 1:47:03 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: 
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>> Vic wasn't right about everything.  An elementary particle is an element 
>> of a mathematical theory to.  And the fact that particles appear simply as 
>> a consequence of assuming an accelerated coordinate system, argues for 
>> regarding them as excitations of a field which is then more fundamental.  
>> What is considered real isn't some deep question to be answered by 
>> meta-physical contemplation.  It's just a choice, part of choosing a 
>> theory.  Vic emphasized operational the importance of operational 
>> definitions; and the operational definition of "real" was it kicks back 
>> when you kick it.  But what counts as kicking and kicking back is also 
>> theory dependent.
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>> Brent
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> Is there an example of a field (in theory) with no associated particle?
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> Gravity...as far as we know.
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_theories_of_consciousness  
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OK.

Actually this was the example of a field I was thinking of where a particle 
doesn't seem to be specified:

*Consciousness emerges in molecules through an interaction with a universal 
proto-consciousness field that is congruent or identical with vacuum 
fluctuations.*

http://www.gregmatloff.com/Edge%20Science%20Matloff-ES29.pdf 

:)

@philipthrift

  

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