On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 10:01:56 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 1/24/2020 7:51 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 5:51:12 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: 
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>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 11:48 AM Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com> 
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>>> On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 6:42:35 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: 
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>>>> Proto-bullshit is an intrinsic component of panpsychism.
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>>>> Brent
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>>> What about is there or is there not a particle associated with the 
>>> gravity field?
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>> Photons (virtual) are associated with the E/M field. Gravitons (virtual) 
>> are associated with the quantized gravity field.
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> Photons "virtual"?  Am I seeing virtual photons impinging on my eyeballs? 
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> No.  The photons you see with are real photons.  Virtual photons are 
> off-shell particles used in Feynman diagrams to expand the Green's 
> function.  They allow for static EM fields; one's that don't propagate.
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> As for gravitons, if we quantized gravity, they would the mediators of 
> force, hence real. AG
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> Except quantizing gravity seems to necessarily lead to un-renormalizable 
> infinities.  Gravitons are just the weak field approximation.  The basic 
> problem is that general relativity is non-linear...gravitons attract 
> gravitons.
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> Brent
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If the gravity field is the one field of physics with no associated 
particle, then that one be an anomaly.
 
@philipthrift


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