On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 7:21:30 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:22:23 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:39 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > Could it be the case that Casimir plates attract each other due to 
>>> electrostatic forces and not vacuum energy? 
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>> Of course not! Don't you thing getting rid of electrostatic forces would 
>> be the very first thing any even halfway competent experimental scientists 
>> would think of before he even dreamed of performing such a super delicate 
>> experiment? 
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>>  John K Clark 
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> Experiments done on the space shuttle and in Germany (where free fall is 
> simulated) have shown that dust particles accumulate due to electrostatic 
> forces, thus changing the model for how planets formed. And if you read the 
> excerpt from the Wiki article I posted, MIT physicists, in 1997 IIRC, were 
> able to explain the Casimir effect without appealing to vacuum energy. AG
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It was in 2005. If the Casimir effect can be explained without appeal to 
vacuum energy, wouldn't it be a violation of Occam's Razor to invoke its 
existence as the cause? AG 

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