On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 2:48:24 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 2:39:45 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 10:19:52 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 8:21:30 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:22:23 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:39 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Could it be the case that Casimir plates attract each other due to >>>>>> electrostatic forces and not vacuum energy? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Of course not! Don't you thing getting rid of electrostatic forces >>>>> would be the very first thing any even halfway competent experimental >>>>> scientists would think of before he even dreamed of performing such a >>>>> super >>>>> delicate experiment? >>>>> >>>>> John K Clark >>>>> >>>> >>>> Experiments done on the space shuttle and in Germany (where free fall >>>> is simulated) have shown that dust particles accumulate due to >>>> electrostatic forces, thus changing the model for how planets formed. And >>>> if you read the excerpt from the Wiki article I posted, MIT physicists, in >>>> 1997 IIRC, were able to explain the Casimir effect without appealing to >>>> vacuum energy. AG >>>> >>> >>> If the two Casimir plates are grounded there will be no electrostatic >>> potential between them. Elementary electricity. >>> >>> LC >>> >> >> I'm not sure how the MIT physicist did the experiment. I just know the >> claim; that he accounted for the forces on the plates without need of >> appealing to vacuum energy. I'll see if I can find the paper and post it. >> AG >> > > Try this, by another physicist: > Proof that Casimir force does not originate from vacuum energy > https://arxiv.org/abs/1605.04143 AG >
Here's his bio; a heavy dude! https://www.fetzer-franklin-fund.org/media/hrvoje-nikolic/ AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/72a61e86-6269-457b-b428-7d8aeb544400%40googlegroups.com.
