On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 2:39:45 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 10:19:52 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 8:21:30 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:22:23 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:39 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Could it be the case that Casimir plates attract each other due to >>>>> electrostatic forces and not vacuum energy? >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course not! Don't you thing getting rid of electrostatic forces >>>> would be the very first thing any even halfway competent experimental >>>> scientists would think of before he even dreamed of performing such a >>>> super >>>> delicate experiment? >>>> >>>> John K Clark >>>> >>> >>> Experiments done on the space shuttle and in Germany (where free fall is >>> simulated) have shown that dust particles accumulate due to electrostatic >>> forces, thus changing the model for how planets formed. And if you read the >>> excerpt from the Wiki article I posted, MIT physicists, in 1997 IIRC, were >>> able to explain the Casimir effect without appealing to vacuum energy. AG >>> >> >> If the two Casimir plates are grounded there will be no electrostatic >> potential between them. Elementary electricity. >> >> LC >> > > I'm not sure how the MIT physicist did the experiment. I just know the > claim; that he accounted for the forces on the plates without need of > appealing to vacuum energy. I'll see if I can find the paper and post it. > AG >
Try this, by another physicist: Proof that Casimir force does not originate from vacuum energy https://arxiv.org/abs/1605.04143 AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1d330fde-4e57-4905-b653-a08deabdd7a6%40googlegroups.com.
