On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 1:34 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 6/10/2020 8:50 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
> > Thought perhaps there's an argument to be made from the church Turing
> > theses, which pertains to possible states of knowledge accessible to a
> > computer program/software. If consciousness is viewed as software then
> > Church-Turing thesis implies that software could never know/realize if
> > it's ultimate computing substrate changed.
>
> I don't understand the import of this.  The very concept of software
> mean "independent of hardware" by definition.  It is not affected by
> whether CT is true or not, whether the computation is finite or not.


You're right. The only relevance of CT is it means any software can be run
by any universal hardware. There's not some software that requires special
hardware of a certain kind.


>   If
> you think that consciousness evolved then it is an obvious inference
> that consciousness would not include consciousness of it's hardware
> implementation.
>

If consciousness is software, it can't know its hardware. But some like
Searle or Penrose think the hardware is important.

Jason

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