> On 11 Jun 2020, at 20:34, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 6/10/2020 8:50 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >> Thought perhaps there's an argument to be made from the church Turing >> theses, which pertains to possible states of knowledge accessible to a >> computer program/software. If consciousness is viewed as software then >> Church-Turing thesis implies that software could never know/realize if it's >> ultimate computing substrate changed. > > I don't understand the import of this. The very concept of software mean > "independent of hardware" by definition. It is not affected by whether CT is > true or not, whether the computation is finite or not. If you think that > consciousness evolved then it is an obvious inference that consciousness > would not include consciousness of it's hardware implementation.
The “brute” consciousness does not involve. It is the consciousness of the universal person already brought by the universal machine or number (finite thing). It is filtered by its consistent extensions, the first main one being the addition of inductions (making it obeying G*). Tha machine cannot know its hardware through introspection, but it can know it through logic + the mechanist hypothesis, in which case its hardware has to comply to the logic of the machine observable (prediction, []p & <>t). So, the machine can test mechanism, by comparing the unique possible physics in their head, with what they see. The result is that there is no evidence for some primitive matter, or for physicalism yet. Nature follows the arithmetical (but non computable) laws of physics derived from Mechanism (an hypothesis in cognitive science). Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/105589fd-59ff-e39c-298e-bea9de66eda5%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7CBBFE84-CFF1-4F12-B323-16D8A25A4D14%40ulb.ac.be.
