How did you calculate it? The calculation should be (speed / c) * 2,500,000
years.

3 mph gives a 4 day difference.

Jason

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:38 PM Lawrence Crowell <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I calculated the time difference for the two observers moving, 128km/hr or
> about .036km/sec, that their relative time with Andromeda is less than a
> second.
>
> We have a problem with defining nothingness. Is there nothingness? Well
> this implies nothingness can exist, and if it exists is is not nothing. If
> nothingness does not exist then of course by definition there is something
> that exists. Of course this is a bit of a semantics game. but in QFT the
> closest we have to nothingness is the vacuum state, where this can
> transition into a new vacuum to produce particles.
>
> LC
>
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 1:15:08 PM UTC-5 Jason wrote:
>
>> I recently came across a paper by C. W. Rietdijk (who is perhaps most
>> famous for using special relativity to prove the existence
>> <https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Rietdijk%E2%80%93Putnam_argument> of a
>> pre-determined, timeless, physical reality) in 1966.
>>
>> As it turns out, he was active and publishing into his 90s, and in 2018
>> published:
>>
>> "*Four-dimensional reality continued.* The implications of the block
>> universe for the origin of matter, consciousness and a possible afterlife.
>> The Einstein–Podolsky–Rosen paradox and its role in four dimensions"
>>
>>
>>
>> I have found much of it to be fascinating and also in line with Bruno's
>> theories. For example, some excerpts:
>>
>>
>> In the beginning, there was only truth, logic and their relation. No
>> possible reality can do without them.
>>
>> As we move from a 3D to a 4D theory of the Universe, several crucial
>> questions need to be asked and answered. One of the most important of those
>> questions concerns the creation of matter. In this section, we deal with
>> this question and ask ourselves: Was matter actually created and how
>> *real* is it?
>>
>> In 4D a Big Bang is both inconceivable and irrelevant; a 4D universe is
>> static—there are no changes in the time direction, therefore a transition
>> from a Universal Void to the existence of matter cannot be. In both 3D and
>> 4D, we must start from the irrefutable fact that “something” must have
>> always been there, and we believe this to be the laws of nature. Voltaire’s
>> argument about the existence of God (No watch without a watchmaker) begs
>> the question who created the watch*maker*, unless we assume that the
>> laws of nature and the universe created themselves. It is our firm belief
>> that the Pythagorean theorem needs not be created, nor the fact that the
>> circumference of a circle is 3.14… times the diameter; the laws of nature
>> and the collection of truths, values and their interrelations are
>> primordial and have always existed. The fundamental stuff of the Universe
>> in 4D consists of logic, mathematics and natural law, which of course exist
>> and always have existed. It seems impossible to eliminate truths, values,
>> etc., from the Universe. Note that in a deterministic conception, there is
>> only one universe. This is the universe that we see; a static 4D universe
>> which is not void.
>>
>> The laws of nature—which have always existed—imply that intelligence has
>> always existed and has always been present, with its correlates
>> “experience” and “Aha-erlebnis,” perceivable to man here and now. It would
>> seem that intelligence must have preceded everything, but in our search for
>> the origin of matter, we cannot content ourselves by simply stating that
>> (3D) matter is produced by intelligence. It *is* possible from the
>> concept of completed intelligence (viz., intelligence including experience
>> and the Aha-erlebnis), to create the deceptive *suggestion* of the
>> existence of matter, experienced in a collective dream, dreamed by living,
>> intelligent beings. This is what we consider to be consciousness. The
>> recognition of the differences between patterns is an Aha-erlebnis.
>>
>> The elementary particles as we know them form patterns, including very
>> implicit or hidden patterns. The marker points and their patterns are the
>> way Intelligence orders all that exists in the world, including feelings,
>> thoughts, colors, sounds, etc. We hypothesize that the microparticles in
>> the Universe form Universal patterns, or abstract, theoretical points that
>> answer to the laws of nature, formulas and logical principles; the common
>> coordinate points in the Universe. These points form a kind of skeleton of
>> the grand pattern of the collective “dream;” a blueprint or map of the
>> Universe.
>>
>>
>> Jason
>>
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