On 7/24/2020 2:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 21 Jul 2020, at 20:14, Jason Resch <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I recently came across a paper by C. W. Rietdijk (who is perhaps most famous for using special relativity to prove the existence <https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Rietdijk%E2%80%93Putnam_argument> of a pre-determined, timeless, physical reality) in 1966.

Actually, I did believe in that type of argument. What makes me doubt a little bit is the book by Palle Yourgrau (A world without time, the forgotten legacy of Gödel and Einstein). It seems to me that Einstein was well aware that SR implies the dispersion of “objective physical time”, but the book explains that with GR, Einstein was not convinced about that time disparition from physics, and that Gödel show him that this is the case, with his circular time solution of Einstein GR equation. So that remains a bit of a mystery for me. Should reread Palle Yourgrau. Amusingly, Einstein found an inconsistency in the US constitution, and plaid that it made the US possibly becoming a dictatorship.

I thought the story was that Gödel found an inconsistency in the Constitution and Einstein had to persuade him not to bring it up in his application for U.S. citizenship.

I strongly disagree with Gödel on this, but I did not expect a Senate able to dismiss second hand information as second hand, and then to dismiss the first hand information (in its impeachment acquitting vote). The US constitution is very good, including in preventing a dictatorship, unless those in power violate it systematically, which is what Trump and its acolytes do since 2016...

Brent

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