On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 5:41:42 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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> On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 5:56:32 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
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>> On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 6:31:23 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>>> On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 6:18:28 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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>>>> The tortoise coordinates is found from the Schwarzschild metric
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>>>> ds^2 = (1 - 2m/r)dt^2 -  (1 - 2m/r)^{-1}dr^2 - r^2dΩ^2   
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>>>> where for a signal leaving a point near the black hole with ds = 0 
>>>> (null path) and propagating radially out, dΩ = 0, we have dt = dr/(1 - 
>>>> 2m/r) which then leads to
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>>>> T = t - t0 - 2m ln|r - 2m|.
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>>>> That is the tortoise coordinate. Please look this up to read further. I 
>>>> can't spend beaucoup time going over this for weeks to come.
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>>>> LC
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>>> You don't have to. We're done.  But you should IMO address Brent's 
>>> objection, maybe on another thread. AG
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>> When it comes to GR, you're a genius; no question about it. I wouldn't 
>> want to waste your valuable time. But consider this; the Schwartzschild 
>> metric applies to NON-ROTATING masses. Do you really think a massive 
>> contracting star which forms a BH will be non-rotating? Obviously, it will 
>> be RAPIDLY rotating, like an ice skater who contracts her arms. Brent also 
>> had some substantive questions about your model. But I see you prefer your 
>> illusions than to address his objections. AG
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> The result is similar, but more complex. The same calculation can be done 
> for the Kerr solution. It is just a lot more complicated mathematically.
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> LC
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If you say so. In any event, the idea that an objectively existing 
gravitational field outside a BH should depend on the choice of a 
particular coordinate system, seems a non-starter. AG 

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