Quantum computers may end up being not-more-advantageous for "quantum 
modeling" than the current trend in using DLNs (deep leaning nets).

e.g. https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.02487

@philipthrift


On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 4:57:45 AM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote:

> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 1:55:20 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020  'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/4/2020 12:52 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Quantum computers, or processors, will make more inroads into 
>>> things. They have a possible big role in understanding quantum black holes 
>>> and quantum complexity. Any NP problem can be worked faster, at least in 
>>> principle, with a quantum computer.
>>>
>>> * > I don't think there's any proof of that.  Given any quantum computer 
>>> algorithm, it is possible that there is an equally fast classical algorithm*
>>>
>>
>> It's true that although a quantum algorithm has been found that can 
>> factor numbers efficiently there is no proof a classical algorithm cannot 
>> be discovered that would do the same thing, in fact it has never been 
>> proven that P≠NP, although nearly all mathematicians believe that is the 
>> case.  However it has been proven that a recently discovered exotic class 
>> of problems can be solved In polynomial time but even if it turns out to 
>> everybody's surprise that P=NP and a classical algorithm is found to make 
>> use of that fact a classical computer could never do as well solving them 
>> as a quantum computer. It's so new that nobody is yet quite sure if this 
>> exotic class of problems is of interest in themselves or is interesting 
>> only because a conventional computer could not solve them efficiently but a 
>> quantum computer could. Although falling short of a proof it gives yet more 
>> ammunition to those who believe a quantum computer can solve more familiar 
>> practical problems faster than a classical computer ever will be able to.
>>
>> Oracle Separation of BQP and PH 
>> <https://eccc.weizmann.ac.il/report/2018/107/>
>>
>> I think the killer application for a quantum computer will be simulating 
>> quantum systems. 
>>
>> John K Clark 
>>
>> The physical idea is that a quantum computer is a faster is that in 
> principle if we had quantum brains it would really be exponentially faster. 
> However, the result of a quantum computation can only be be manifested if 
> the entanglements are decoded by a classical signal. This "undoes" the 
> exponential speed up. However, for teleporting a state with a Bell pair the 
> classical part has half the information. Then in principle, for quantum 
> computing there is a speed up that is some fraction of what occurs with a 
> classical computer. The actual speed up is dependent on the algorithm as 
> well. 
>
> This paper on BQP and PH made a related point in that BQP has the need for 
> fewer oracle inputs, which is the same as saying user inputs. This means 
> for a range of problems quantum computing will have an economy of time or 
> scale. 
>
> Certainly right away quantum computing will be mostly used for modelling 
> systems, in particular quantum systems. Quantum computing has analogues 
> with black holes as well. The complexity of computing has analogues with 
> quantum complexity of black holes. We may then have laboratory-like forms 
> or simulations of black holes with quantum computers. In fact I think this 
> can happen with a certain optical process with atoms that can make an atom 
> quantum computing.
>
> LC
>

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