On 10/12/2020 2:18 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 3:17:34 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote:



    On 10/12/2020 3:15 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
    I would say in general with a machine you can see the seems,
    bolts and rivets while a biological system you don't. You can
    turn off a machine, but a biological system does not turn back
    on. Biological systems are spontaneous and will act accordingly.
A computer with no input just sits there.

    That raises an interesting question though.  Will a brain with no
    input function?  I've heard that in experiments using sensory
    deprivation tanks, people's thought tend to go into a loop; even
    though the sensory input isn't strictly zero.

    Brent


People in sensory deprivation tanks at some point start entering hallucinations. Think of the standard computer, such as one's desktop or laptop, if you boot it up it then just sits there. So long as the power is up it will just stay there in this resting state.

How do you know it's not hallucinating? :-)  It doesn't seem to be doing anything because it doesn't have any sensory input.  In fact my computer will upload email every ten minutes, sort through it and discard about half to Junk, a classification it learned by watching me.

Brent


I have thought there is some possible intellectual revolution with understanding how brains work. There seems in ways to a a more general principle for how states in network systems evolve.

LC


    While there are clearly Turning machine or Church-Turing aspects
    of how brains or neural systems work, there are also huge
    departures.

    LC

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