Human minds can ask questions, computers outside of pre-programmed prompts do not. A computer can compute tens of thousands of zeros to the Riemann zeta function, a human mind seeks a proof of the conjecture.
LC On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 7:03:48 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 6:15 AM Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > *> I would say in general with a machine you can see the seems, bolts and >> rivets while a biological system you don't.* > > > A trivial difference, one has cartilage the other has bolts and rivets. > > >> * > You can turn off a machine, but a biological system does not turn >> back on.* > > > So an artificial machine can do something that a natural biological > machine can not, and that will be far from the only advantage they have. > > >> *> Biological systems are spontaneous and will act accordingly.* > > > I don't know what you mean by that. All machines, both natural and > artificial, either do things for a reason and thus are deterministic or > they do things for no reason and thus are random. Natural or artificial it > makes no difference, they're either cuckoo clocks or roulette wheels. > > > >> > *A computer with no input just sits there.* > > > A computer with no inputs can still calculate the digits of PI, and so can > a human who can't see, hear, feel, smell, or taste. Although the human > would perform the calculation much much slower and be more error-prone. > > >> *> While there are clearly Turning machine or Church-Turing aspects of >> how brains or neural systems work, there are also huge departures.* > > > Huge departures? I can't even think of any tiny departures and neither can > anybody else, nobody has ever found a problem that a human can solve that a > Turing Machine couldn't. > > John K Clark > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2f15a4a6-b2d4-49d6-be45-75636925db8an%40googlegroups.com.

