On 10/12/2020 2:12 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
Human minds can ask questions, computers outside of pre-programmed
prompts do not.
Untrue. It's quite easy to program a computer to ask questions based on
inputs from the environment. You cel phone will ask you, "Do you want
to answer this call? It looks like spam." and it makes that judgement
"It looks like spam." based on the source, content, and past experience.
A computer can compute tens of thousands of zeros to the Riemann zeta
function, a human mind seeks a proof of the conjecture.
There a automatic proof programs too.
Brent
LC
On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 7:03:48 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 6:15 AM Lawrence Crowell
<[email protected]> wrote:
/> I would say in general with a machine you can see the
seems, bolts and rivets while a biological system you don't./
A trivial difference, one has cartilage the other has bolts and
rivets.
/> You can turn off a machine, but a biological system does
not turn back on./
So an artificial machine can do something that a natural
biological machine can not, and that will be far from the only
advantage they have.
/> Biological systems are spontaneous and will act accordingly./
I don't know what you mean by that. All machines, both natural and
artificial, either do things for a reason and thus are
deterministic or they do things for no reason and thus are random.
Natural or artificial it makes no difference, they're either
cuckoo clocks or roulette wheels.
> /A computer with no input just sits there./
A computer with no inputs can still calculate the digits of PI,
and so can a human who can't see, hear, feel, smell, or taste.
Although the human would perform the calculation much much slower
and be more error-prone.
/> While there are clearly Turning machine or Church-Turing
aspects of how brains or neural systems work, there are also
huge departures./
Huge departures? I can't even think of any tiny departures and
neither can anybody else, nobody has ever found a problem that a
human can solve that a Turing Machine couldn't.
John K Clark
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