The architecture they specify in their paper

             https://arxiv.org/pdf/2011.09850.pdf

could be of interest to the AI hacker (MIT AI Lab type) trying to implement 
and demonstrate a "conscious" robot" (even just an impressively "fake" 
one). 

*We agree with Christof Koch that “There isn’t a Turing Test for 
consciousness. You have to look at the way the system is built. You have to 
look at the circuitry, not [only] its behavior”. We would emphasize 
“architecture” over “circuitry”.*

(But the "neuromorphic" might not just be architecture, but material 
composition.)

It is interesting that the presence of these artificial beings may be 
looked at differently depending on culture.

*Why Westerners Fear Robots and the Japanese Do Not*
https://www.wired.com/story/ideas-joi-ito-robot-overlords/

@philipthrift

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:52:39 PM UTC-6 Lawrence Crowell wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 8:58:14 AM UTC-6 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 2:17 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > The Conscious Turing Machine
>>> arXiv:
>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2011.09850
>>>
>>
>>> *DEFINITION 1.5.1. At each time t ≥ 0, Short Term Memory holds exactly 
>>> one chunk, which is designated the entirety of Conscious 
>>> Turing Machine's conscious content. Consciousness in Conscious 
>>> Turing Machine is defined to be the awareness (i.e. the reception by 
>>> all Long Term Memory). It defines the conscious content of Conscious 
>>> Turing Machine to be whatever chunk is in Short Term Memory; and then 
>>> defines Conscious Awareness by the Conscious Turing Machineto be the 
>>> reception by all Long Term Memory processors of Short Term 
>>> Memory's broadcast of that content. The gists of those broadcasts may be 
>>> viewed as the inner thoughts generated by Conscious 
>>> Turing Machine's unconscious processors or the speech, vision, touch, 
>>> taste, and/or whatever else is received as input by the Conscious 
>>> Turing Machine*
>>
>>
>> Consciousness and awareness mean the same thing, so all the verbiage in 
>> the above could be boiled down to "Consciousness in Conscious Turing 
>> Machine theory is defined to be consciousness" which I don't find to be 
>> terribly helpful. And in the article I don't see even a hint as to how an 
>> experimental test could be performed to see if this "theory" is actually 
>> correct.
>>
>> John K Clark
>>
>
> Blum defined a funny sort of meaning to incomputability, which is 
> basically recursively enumerable. Blum stated this was incomputable because 
> the computation would not halt and there is no final output. This differs 
> from Turing's definition in that one cannot determine if all things halt or 
> do not halt. 
>
> The video is sort of long and I am not sure if I have the time to devote 
> to this. This definition of inner thought being conferred to a system which 
> exhibits the outward properties of a person known to have inner thoughts is 
> not much different from the Turing test definition. This is couched in the 
> definition of memory or long term memory as a cache of short term memories. 
> This seems rather artificial to me.
>
> LC 
>

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