On 11/26/2020 4:28 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
The architecture they specify in their paper
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2011.09850.pdf
could be of interest to the AI hacker (MIT AI Lab type) trying to
implement and demonstrate a "conscious" robot" (even just an
impressively "fake" one).
/We agree with Christof Koch that “There isn’t a Turing Test for
consciousness. You have to look at the way the system is built. You
have to look at the circuitry, not [only] its behavior”. We would
emphasize “architecture” over “circuitry”./
Then can they answer the question, "Is an octopus conscious?" Octopuses
have a very different neural architecture. Two thirds of their neurons
are in their legs. They have almost as many as a dog (5e8 vs 7e8).
They play. They recognize individual people. I'd say they are
conscious...but then I'm only looking at behavior. I curious as to what
looking at architecture would contribute?
Brent
(But the "neuromorphic" might not just be architecture, but material
composition.)
It is interesting that the presence of these artificial beings may be
looked at differently depending on culture.
*Why Westerners Fear Robots and the Japanese Do Not*
https://www.wired.com/story/ideas-joi-ito-robot-overlords/
@philipthrift
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:52:39 PM UTC-6 Lawrence Crowell
wrote:
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 8:58:14 AM UTC-6
[email protected] wrote:
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 2:17 PM Philip Thrift
<[email protected]> wrote:
> The Conscious Turing Machine
arXiv:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2011.09850
<https://arxiv.org/abs/2011.09850>
/DEFINITION 1.5.1. At each time t ≥ 0, Short Term Memory
holds exactly one chunk, which is designated the entirety
of Conscious TuringMachine's conscious content.
Consciousness in Conscious TuringMachine is defined to be
the awareness (i.e. the reception by all Long Term
Memory). It defines the conscious content of Conscious
TuringMachine to be whatever chunk is in Short Term
Memory; and then defines Conscious Awareness by the
Conscious TuringMachineto be the reception by all Long
Term Memory processors of Short Term Memory's broadcast of
that content. The gists of those broadcasts may be viewed
as the inner thoughts generated by Conscious
TuringMachine's unconscious processors or the speech,
vision, touch, taste, and/or whatever else is received as
input by the Conscious TuringMachine/
Consciousness and awareness mean the same thing, so all the
verbiage in the above could be boiled down to "Consciousness
in Conscious Turing Machine theory is defined to be
consciousness" which I don't find to be terribly helpful. And
in the article I don't see even a hint as to how an
experimental test could be performed to see if this "theory"
is actually correct.
John K Clark
Blum defined a funny sort of meaning to incomputability, which is
basically recursively enumerable. Blum stated this was
incomputable because the computation would not halt and there is
no final output. This differs from Turing's definition in that one
cannot determine if all things halt or do not halt.
The video is sort of long and I am not sure if I have the time to
devote to this. This definition of inner thought being conferred
to a system which exhibits the outward properties of a person
known to have inner thoughts is not much different from the Turing
test definition. This is couched in the definition of memory or
long term memory as a cache of short term memories. This seems
rather artificial to me.
LC
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