I have my concerns not so much with robots, but with their development in various directions. An example is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ipkq-BASaM LC On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:28:53 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: > The architecture they specify in their paper > > https://arxiv.org/pdf/2011.09850.pdf > > could be of interest to the AI hacker (MIT AI Lab type) trying to > implement and demonstrate a "conscious" robot" (even just an impressively > "fake" one). > > *We agree with Christof Koch that “There isn’t a Turing Test for > consciousness. You have to look at the way the system is built. You have to > look at the circuitry, not [only] its behavior”. We would emphasize > “architecture” over “circuitry”.* > > (But the "neuromorphic" might not just be architecture, but material > composition.) > > It is interesting that the presence of these artificial beings may be > looked at differently depending on culture. > > *Why Westerners Fear Robots and the Japanese Do Not* > https://www.wired.com/story/ideas-joi-ito-robot-overlords/ > > @philipthrift > > On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:52:39 PM UTC-6 Lawrence Crowell wrote: > >> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 8:58:14 AM UTC-6 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 2:17 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > The Conscious Turing Machine >>>> arXiv: >>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2011.09850 >>>> >>> >>>> *DEFINITION 1.5.1. At each time t ≥ 0, Short Term Memory holds exactly >>>> one chunk, which is designated the entirety of Conscious >>>> Turing Machine's conscious content. Consciousness in Conscious >>>> Turing Machine is defined to be the awareness (i.e. the reception by >>>> all Long Term Memory). It defines the conscious content of Conscious >>>> Turing Machine to be whatever chunk is in Short Term Memory; and then >>>> defines Conscious Awareness by the Conscious Turing Machineto be the >>>> reception by all Long Term Memory processors of Short Term >>>> Memory's broadcast of that content. The gists of those broadcasts may be >>>> viewed as the inner thoughts generated by Conscious >>>> Turing Machine's unconscious processors or the speech, vision, touch, >>>> taste, and/or whatever else is received as input by the Conscious >>>> Turing Machine* >>> >>> >>> Consciousness and awareness mean the same thing, so all the verbiage in >>> the above could be boiled down to "Consciousness in Conscious Turing >>> Machine theory is defined to be consciousness" which I don't find to be >>> terribly helpful. And in the article I don't see even a hint as to how an >>> experimental test could be performed to see if this "theory" is actually >>> correct. >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >> >> Blum defined a funny sort of meaning to incomputability, which is >> basically recursively enumerable. Blum stated this was incomputable because >> the computation would not halt and there is no final output. This differs >> from Turing's definition in that one cannot determine if all things halt or >> do not halt. >> >> The video is sort of long and I am not sure if I have the time to devote >> to this. This definition of inner thought being conferred to a system which >> exhibits the outward properties of a person known to have inner thoughts is >> not much different from the Turing test definition. This is couched in the >> definition of memory or long term memory as a cache of short term memories. >> This seems rather artificial to me. >> >> LC >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/760ae031-0e26-463b-ad5b-0e5637d5ad92n%40googlegroups.com.
