Pagan theology is just the theology studied with the scientific attitude, which means mainly: not invoking revelation (personal or otherwise). It is also called “non-confessional theology”. It is theology before tyran appropriates it to train the people in obeying to him/her.
The god of Plato is defined by the fundamental truth, or first principle, that we can search, with the understanding that anyone claiming to have find it is automatically a liar. Something confirmed for the notion of arithmetical truth by the universal machine (with enough induction axioms). Digital Mechanism enforce a coming back to Pythagoreanism, enriched by the Church-Turing thesis, which defines the observer internal to the arithmetical reality. Bruno > On 15 Jan 2021, at 00:10, Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Born's rule from almost nothing > > [Philip Benjamin] > Be it Relativity Theory (actually Relationality) where Social > Sciences ignore the speed of light in vacuo as a CONSTANT (ABSOLUTE) or > Quantum Mechanics where mystics disregard the AS IF Logic but accept the BOTH > & Fallacy of de Broglie’s wave-like, not Bohr’s wavy, particle, or be it > Evolution qua Trans-speciation where the acade-media substitute the > un-evidential inter-species Trans-speciation for the evidential intra-species > Adaptation or Variation (i.e. Natural Selection), the unproven dogmas of the > acade-media have both direct and indirect deleterious effects on social norms > in general and current events in particular. They ignore the inevitable > questions of aseity, causality, infinite regress, origin, morality, meaning, > teleology etc. All dictatorial systems where pagans with reptilian/kundalini, > un-awakened consciousnesses dominate, have some or all of these beliefs as > their foundations (e.g. pagan Socialist Hitler, pagan Marxist Stalin, pagan > Fascist Mussolini and all similar pagan Progressives). Pagan = Pan-Gaian = > earthlings for whom earth is all that matters). > Western > Civilization is an Augustinian Trust > > Its > stealing beneficiary is WAMP-the-Ingrate > > WAMP = Western Acade-Media > Pagan(ism), a parody of the erstwhile WASP > > Paganism, be civilized and scholarly, is un-awakened kundalini > consciousness. Non-paganism is awakened, non-reptilian consciousness. Pagan > hatred for non-pagans is atavistic, unilateral and universal—pagan Cain vs > non-pagan sibling Abel!! The Puritan/Reformation idea of inalienable personal > rights for “Life, Liberty and Private Property, as divinely ordained > birthrights not bestowed by law, custom, or belief, and which cannot be taken > or given away, or transferred to another person, is totally foreign to the > WAMP sense of individual freedoms (licentiousness). > https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/01/11/dershowitz-destroys-democrats-impeachment-hopes-1015126/ > > <https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/01/11/dershowitz-destroys-democrats-impeachment-hopes-1015126/>. > Modern civilized pagan politicians may impeach all past presidents from > George Washington to 46-th. > > Argumentum verecundiam may use respect for the brilliance and > authority of an American physicist Hugh Everett (1957) in order to fortify > one’s argument and offer an impression or “hunch” of proof for propositions > of questionable validity and reliance such as The Multiverse speculation that > “there are many worlds which exist in parallel at the same space and time as > our own”. Here, the Schrodinger equation never collapses, but all > probabilities of a quantum superstition are objectively real, unlike the > subjective CopenPagan Interpretation (a malaprop for Copenhagen!). This > makes it possible to remove randomness and action at a distance from quantum > theory, but that does not make it true. Quantum theory interpretations, be it > the subjective CopenPagan or objective Many Worlds, are based on imaginary > conceptualization of particle-wave duality. De Broglie wave-length is based > only on apparent wave-likeness not actual waviness of particles. An AS IF > Logic, not Both & Fallacy, is all that is needed here. > Photons also are corpuscular, probably with mas at an indefinite > decimal place, behaving AS IF in wave forms. Corpuscular photon and > particulate matter are very differently treated. In 1905 Einstein managed to > write E^2=P^2c^2+m^2c^4,and he figured out that light is both a particle and > a wave and that the energy of a photon isn’t governed by its mass or its > velocity (like matter), instead it is governed entirely by its frequency, f: > E=hf, where h is Planck’s constant 6.626070150 × 10-34 kg⋅m2/s which > nonetheless has kg (mass) in its unit. Photons may have mass. > https://www.askamathematician.com/2010/09/q-how-can-photons-have-energy-and-momentum-but-no-mass/ > > <https://www.askamathematician.com/2010/09/q-how-can-photons-have-energy-and-momentum-but-no-mass/>; > > https://science.howstuffworks.com/math-concepts/kilogram-is-dead-meet-kilogram-20.htm > > <https://science.howstuffworks.com/math-concepts/kilogram-is-dead-meet-kilogram-20.htm>. > Imaginary complex numbers are used in practically every field of physics and > mathematics, in electrical engineering and control system design. That does > not make square root of minus 1 real, though all numbers by themselves are > abstractions. > A set of data may be of objective science, but interpretation of that > set is a subjective stuff. World views of scientists will be ALWAYS a > determining factor in their interpretations of observations or data. > Civilized pagan atheists or humanists with an un-awakened reptilian/kundalini > consciousness, such as Hugh Everett, will not have the same interpretation as > civilized theists like Galileo or Copernicus or Newton or Faraday or Joule, > each with an Augustinian awakened consciousness > (https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine > <https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine>). Augustine > was once a civilized erudite pagan of Greco Roman roots, who baptized > Platonism into Scriptural norms, pulled the West out of Greco-Roman paganism > and is considered the chief architect of Western Civilization based on > Transformation or Rebirth of the “self” (inner man) solely (100%) by the > extrinsic source of Power of Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim > (uni-plural) of the Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles. Augustine in fact > built on the foundation of the Athenian Mars Hill discourse by Rabbi Saul of > Tarsus (Acts Ch. 17) where the Greek Unknown god was identified as the Risen > Messiah. The American Puritan concept of a Non-sovereign Federation of the > Sovereign States is clearly not the result of atheistic-humanist paganism, > pagan politics, New Age occultism, Taoism, Talmudism, TM, Jungian Sorceries, > the Koran or the Puranas etc. In reality, America is the product of “Two > Great Awakenings”, both historical and historic. Only a Third Great Awakening > of individual consciousness on a massive scale is the remedy for the present > malady. Pagans with un-awakened consciousness are now predominant everywhere: > pulpits and pews, politics and parties, bureaucracies and businesses, > academia and media, military and militia. > > For science today, the only candidate available for the “inner man” or > “self” of Augustinian philosophy (as he understood from the Scriptures) is > the bio dark-matter body with its bio dark-matter chemistries formed at the > moment of conception along with the bio light-matter body with its > chemistries. The subatomic constituents a dark-atom will have negligible > masses with respect to electron, but the same mass ratios as those in > light-atom. The dark and light twins are in resonance, offering a basis for > self-consciousness. Resonance is rudimentary recognition. A non-electric, > non-entropic, durable and precocial bio dark-matter twin, co-created at the > moment of conception, can survive the altricial light-matter twin. When > decoupled at death the bio dark-matter body will be relatively at a negative > energy state by -E = mC^2 where m is the dead body mass. That will be the > magnitude of the threshold external energy needed to raise the bio dark > matter body to any functional state (Physical resurrection for example). > > Evidentialist > Philip Benjamin > CC. Prof. Robert > B. Reich, Berkeley > Freedom From Religion Foundation. > https://ffrf.org/news/day/dayitems/item/14896-hugh-everett-iii > <https://ffrf.org/news/day/dayitems/item/14896-hugh-everett-iii> “Everett > was a “lifelong atheist,” according to The Many Worlds of Hugh Everett III > (2010) by Peter Byrne. During his time at the Catholic university, Everett > “drove devout Jesuits to distraction with scientific questioning” and even > caused one of his professors to lose his faith after presenting a logical > proof against the existence of God (quoted in The Many Worlds of Hugh Everett > III).” > https://ffrf.org/faq/item/14999-what-is-the-foundations-purpose > <https://ffrf.org/faq/item/14999-what-is-the-foundations-purpose> “The > history of Western civilization shows us that most social and moral progress > has been brought about by persons free from religion. In modern times, the > first to speak out for prison reform, for humane treatment of the mentally > ill, for abolition of capital punishment, for women’s right to vote, for > death with dignity for the terminally ill, and for the right to choose > contraception, sterilization and abortion have been freethinkers, just as > they were the first to call for an end to slavery”. [Note: This is blatantly > wrong. Take for example the universal bane of slavery. Thanks to the > life-long efforts of the Puritan MP William Wilberforce, for the first time > in human history Slave Trade was abolished by law in the British Empire—the > vastest, greatest, most powerful, boblest (not perfect) empire ever on planet > earth. It was followed six decades later by the American Emancipation. Modern > civilized pagan politicians may impeach all past presidents from George > Washington to the 46- th.] > > Any ONE? “This is why you seem to "argue" like a Trumper…” If Many Worlds is > correct then an astronomical number of Alan Graysons remember witnessing a > physicist measure a quantum event, but the Alan Graysons will not all have > the same memories”. > https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-fascism-future-ruth-ben-ghiat_n_5ff8c215c5b6c77d85e6a3d0 > > <https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-fascism-future-ruth-ben-ghiat_n_5ff8c215c5b6c77d85e6a3d0> > ; > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hes-going-to-be-more-unleashed-and-unhinged-than-ever/ > > <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hes-going-to-be-more-unleashed-and-unhinged-than-ever/> > Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a history professor at New York University and author of > the book “Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present.” She talked to HuffPost about > how she thinks Trump might act once he’s out of office and how America could > be headed for even more violence and political unrest. “He's Going To Be More > Unleashed And Unhinged Than Ever…. Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a history professor at > New York University and author of the book “Strongmen: Mussolini to the > Present.” She talked to HuffPost about how she thinks Trump might act once > he’s out of office and how America could be headed for > even more violence and political unrest…. Christopher Mathias 01/09/2021 > 08:00 am ET. You’ve described this kind of leader-follower relationship like > a fascistic relationship. Typically how is that spell broken? How do people > get out of that”? > https://sqpn.com/2021/01/what-is-the-great-reset-davos-and-the-world-economic-forum/ > > <https://sqpn.com/2021/01/what-is-the-great-reset-davos-and-the-world-economic-forum/> > MYS136: The World Economic Forum has proposed to use the Covid-19 > pandemic as an opportunity to have a “Great Reset” to fundamentally transform > the way the world works. > https://republicanpress.org/world-economic-forum-calls-for-great-reset-of-capitalism/ > > <https://republicanpress.org/world-economic-forum-calls-for-great-reset-of-capitalism/> > (RepublicanPress.org) – The world is on the brink of an economic collapse > due to China’s mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic. As if that wasn’t bad > enough, the World Economic Forum (WEF) appears to be trying to reset > capitalism to socialism in response to the crisis. The potential fallout to > the world’s economies could be immeasurable, if this turns out to be true. > The WEF plan is called The Great Reset Initiative, and a quick review of its > official website is enough to alarm anyone concerned about the continuation > of American economic values….. The site hones in on the geopolitical, social, > and political disruptions occurring in the wake of the COVID-19 outbreak. > Incredibly, it appears to interpret the crisis as “a unique window of > opportunity” to shape the future national economies. It seems to draw a > connection between socialistic values and, somehow, links them to “the > dignity of every human being.” > https://businessmirror.com.ph/2021/01/07/world-leaders-urge-us-china-reset-at-bloomberg-new-economy-forum/ > > <https://businessmirror.com.ph/2021/01/07/world-leaders-urge-us-china-reset-at-bloomberg-new-economy-forum/> > “The first day of the four-day Bloomberg New Economy Forum concluded with > business and political leaders taking on issues from the economic fallout of > the coronavirus pandemic to the future of global trade and climate change…. > The New Economy Forum is organized by Bloomberg Media Group, a division of > Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News.”. > > https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/biden-pelosi-schumer-john-lewis-save-democracy.html > > <https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/biden-pelosi-schumer-john-lewis-save-democracy.html> > . Slate. Richard L. Hasen. 1-11-2021. The Only Way to Save American > Democracy Now. “Right now, it takes 60 votes to get most things done in > the Senate, a structure that helps perpetuate minority rule. In the Senate, > small Republican states like Wyoming, with fewer than 600,000 people, can > join together to thwart the voting rights of states like California, with > nearly 40 million people. (In the last Congress, for instance, senators > representing 13 million fewer voters commanded a 53–47 Republican Senate > majority.) A filibuster exception for voting rights legislation helps to > negate that anti-majoritarian advantage in the Senate….. We should not allow > state legislatures or canvassing boards to easily overturn election results, > and the threshold for debating objections to Electoral College votes in > Congress needs to be raised substantially”. > https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/robert-b-reich-trump-attempted-a-coup-and-must-be-removed/ > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftribunecontentagency.com%2Farticle%2Frobert-b-reich-trump-attempted-a-coup-and-must-be-removed%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8e0d5e345a66420535b408d8b8e05a8b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637462621017287737%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=seP50r8dY%2BuE%2B1TGyaGSIkacZQwmLZ2tTkUjfoHoARE%3D&reserved=0> > January 11, 2021 Robert B. Reich: “Trump attempted a coup and must be > removed…. Amendment right to try to overthrow the U.S. government. Trump’s > accomplices on Capitol Hill, most notably Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Missouri > Sen. Josh Hawley, should be forced to resign… Donald Trump. son Donald Trump > Jr. and personal attorney Rudy Giuliani should be areested and tried for > sedition…” > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of John Clark > Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 8:59 AM To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Born's rule from almost nothing > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 11:15 AM Philip Benjamin <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > [Philip Benjamin] > The whole idea of multiverse is contrary to all laws of > logic > > [John K Clark] My hunch is that Many Worlds Is correct but I could be wrong, > but right or wrong it doesn't violate any law of logic, it's odd but not > paradoxical and we already know from experiment that whatever the true > interpretation of Quantum Mechanics turns out to be it's going to be odd, > very very odd. > > [Philip Benjamin] > and the fundamental physical law of conservation of mass > and energy. > > [John K Clark ] Unlike the Second Law Of Thermodynamics which we know from > pure logic must be true a violation in the law of conservation of mass and > energy would not violate any laws of logic. And even before Quantum Mechanics > came along we knew from General Relativity that the law of conservation of > mass-energy only holds true locally not globally. The universe is expanding > so photons of light get stretched to a longer wavelength and photons with a > longer wavelength have less energy, so where did that energy go? It didn't go > anywhere, it just disappeared. And now we know that the universe is > accelerating, so where did the energy for that acceleration come from? It > came from empty space. It's still true that if a spherical region of space of > fixed size is in thermal equilibrium then the amount of energy entering that > sphere will equal the amount of energy leaving it, it's just that now more > space has been created outside that sphere and thus there is more energy. > > [Philip Benjamin] > Augustine’s consciousness was instantly transformed form > paganism to non-paganism > [John K Clark] Personally I don't think the change from polytheism to > monotheism was much of an advance, both ideas are silly but polytheism is > more fun, it makes for better comic books. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB47043560BA297C3067ED76B3A8A80%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SA0PR11MB47043560BA297C3067ED76B3A8A80%40SA0PR11MB4704.namprd11.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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