On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 1:21:32 PM UTC+2 Bruce wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 7:38 PM Tomas Pales <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 2:36:38 AM UTC+2 Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Much as I respect Russell, his book is not an authoritative source for 
>>> anything. It is all rampant speculation.
>>> On the matter of the stability of laws and the connection with 
>>> simplicity, I refer you to the 'grue/bleen' paradox introduced by Nelson 
>>> Goodman. That shows that the idea of simplicity as an explanation for 
>>> anything is misplaced.
>>>
>>
>> Note that the relation between simplicity and frequency is not Russell's 
>> speculation but a fact following from Kolmogorov's definition of 
>> complexity: simpler objects are more frequent than more complex objects 
>> because the same simpler object is contained in less simple objects.
>>
>
> This is only if everything is considered to be a bit string. There is no 
> reason to suppose that this is true.
>

No, atoms are more simple than ducks, and atoms are also more frequent than 
ducks because there are atoms in every duck but there is no duck in an 
atom. However, it seems that every object can be represented as a binary 
string, which is a useful representation in computer science.
 

> What a load of garbage! Science is not a matter of induction from observed 
> data.
>

What is science a matter of then?
 

> Goodman's grue/bleen paradox puts paid to that idea. Algorithmic 
> simplicity has nothing to do with real world data.
>

But the property of "grue" is more complex than the property of "green". 
"Grue" means "green before time t (for example year 2030) and blue after 
time t". More complex properties are less frequent than simpler properties. 
For this reason, and given the way the world has been until now, objects 
that have been observed as remaining green in the past are more likely to 
remain green in the future, instead of becoming blue at some time.

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