On 7/5/2021 7:41 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 9:44 AM Tomas Pales <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        >> "Brain" is a noun, "consciousness" is not, that's why you
        can't measure consciousness by the pound or by the cubic inch.


    /> In English language it is used as a noun. Check out a dictionary:/

    *consciousness* noun
    <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noun>


I know, that's what my fourth grade teacher told me too, but I long-ago realized that neither she nor the lexicographerswho wrote that big thick book are the fonts of all wisdom.

        >> Intelligence is what a brain does not what a brain is, and
        because Darwinian Evolution is almost certainly correct,
        consciousness must be an inevitable byproduct of intelligence,
        therefore "consciousness" is not a noun, it's a word that
        describes what a noun (in this case the brain) does, in other
        words consciousness is an adjective.


    /> You mean a verb then, no? /


I think adjective fits the bill a littlebetter,I think Tomas Palesis the way atoms behave when they are arranged in a Tomaspalesian way.

    > /consciousness is a spatiotemporal object./


I disagree, I think asking where my consciousness is located would be like asking where the number 11 or the color yellow  or "fast" is located.  If my brain is in Paris and I'm looking at a TV football game from Detroit and I'm listening to a friend in Australia on my telephone and I'm thinking about The Great Wall of China would it  make sense to say my consciousness is really located inside a box made of bone mounted on my shoulders when I have no conscious experience of being in a bone box on my shoulders? I don't think so.

Yet a sharp blow to that bone box would eliminate your conscious experience at least temporarily.  So there's something there that is essential to your consciousness.

Brent



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