What Trump would have done beyond being smarter about things than Joe is doing 
is beyond a doubt. What I think should have been done would've have been closer 
to your statement, "do you think he'd just get mad and drop an H-Bomb on 
Kabul?, 
The choice was the President's. He decided to do things in this way, and this 
is what we get.  My thinking is that because you your fellow voters think and 
react, the Afghan Collapse may do nothing harmful in the polls for Joe and his 
fellow democrats.  It won't effect you guys, because for your team, it's a 
non-starter. The things that effect your group would be things that threaten 
the dem voter's sense of power & security. What might these now be?
List of Probable's to change the perceptions of the democrat voting base (these 
need not be likely, simply if they occur?).1. Inflation2. Unemployment3. Mass 
casualty terrorism. 4. Street crime/thuggery increase5. Prolonged delta 
shutdown6. Comrade Xi attacks. 
None of these may ever occur, least of all on Biden's shift. If you are 
disliking Joe's choices on Afghanistan, all I could say is it's on you. But 
that's what make's ball games.
He seems to be doing exactly what Obama did on 9/11/12 in Benghazi. Jimmy 
Carter in his Iran Hostage rescue failure. Yes, Miss Saigon occurred under 
Gerald Ford's watch, as did the Killing Fields of Cambodia. Ford did do a 
Hostage Rescue of the captured Mayaguez crew that was successful. The Vietnam 
failure and  the Cambodian Killing fields were on him tho. I can continue 
time-warping back and ruminate over past historical choices, ad nauseum. But 
it's just compare & contrast is all, hoping to learn from past errors.



























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From: John Clark <[email protected]>
To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2021 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: Europeans are smarter than Americans

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 3:50 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
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> Trump would have never permitted this replay of Miss Saigon.

Permitted? What magical thing do you think he would've done to prevent it?  
Trump said all during his administration that we should get out of Afghanistan, 
although for 4 years he never had the guts to actually do so, but if reelected 
he said he do it in May, so do you think he would now cancel the pull out and 
send in an additional 30,000 American troops and keep them in Afghanistan 
forever? Or do you think he'd just get mad and drop an H-Bomb on Kabul?John K 
Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolisx2v

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